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my benediction · Jul 31, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

i might be thinking of anothe game, dont listen to my first post

DeanBB · Jul 31, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

I didn't bother reading all this, but my suggestion:

Turn off All, Emote and Trade chat. Leave them off.

Join a good guild and use Guild, Team, Alliance and Whisper, they are there for a reason.

Problem solved.

Kalki · Jul 31, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

and why is all this? because its frustrating to be called a douchebag for trying to learn the game and for trying random arenas for the first time.

What you're describing is a problem you'll get in most online games you play. I don't see how Anet can fix this for you. You need to take some steps yourself and calm down.

Step 1 - Stop complaining (and crying). It only feeds the idiots.
Step 2 - Re-evaluate your life and whether you've been playing too much GW. You sound like you need a break from online games.
Step 3 - If you choose to keep playing get THICKER SKIN.
Step 4 - Practice, practice, practice.
Step 5- After 2 hours come back and rock off the faces of people talking trash, cause they mostly suck anyway.
Step 6 - Now that you've won make the choice whether to be a trash-talking douche yourself, or be helpful.

Swinging Fists · Jul 31, 2006, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Sounds to me like someone needs to learn to not let others affect them so much. I play in the same GW world, I visit RA, I see a lot of crap talk, but I don't let it bother me and I go on doing what I came to do. You will run across idiots ingame as well as real life. You might as well learn to deal with it. Do you call for the President, or whomever the leader of your country is, to make changes about communication or proclaim that the world is coming to an end because somebody said something offensive ?

I don't PvP much, but sometimes I'll go in RA with my touch ranger and I get lots of comments from people, none nice. Do I care ? No, except I do find it amusing as they lay dead on the ground, telling me how much of a noob I am.

You can't control what other people say or do. You can only control how it affects you and how and if you respond.

jimmyhats · Jul 31, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

except I do find it amusing as they lay dead on the ground, telling me how much of a noob I am.

har har that the best part of RA >;D

ERMC · Jul 31, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58

it's funny people think GW is the only game that has these problems when it's in every single MMO game. Someone can't actually believe that racist comments are only in GW, they are in every single game and the reason you are asked to report them is that GMs can't be everywere and the fact that the OP actually has to ask why he has to report them shows he doesn't know much about what he is talking about. No one ask people to police you report what you find offensive and if you can't be bothered to report someone why are you whinning about it? Seems to me if you have time to post an arguement that really is all over the place you have more then enough time to fill out a report. The reason people dont' bring that up is because it's understandable. As for the so called GW hate on other websites it's not that bad as you want to make it seem to be.

If you are arguing about In-game voice communcation which i believe you said in that. Most PvPers use voice programs namely Vent and Teamspeak just like WoW players.

Imature players are not GW exculsive either. I played WoW for awhile the communtiy maturity is about the same.

as for finding a group for PvP pugs are usually bad. Best to find players and play with them on a regulary basis. I haven't PuGed an HoH group in so long because i just go with friends and guild members.

PvPers are not concerned cause it's not a problem. IDK why u assume PvP is not taken off or what have you.

Leroy Jenkins is a gaming ICON???? that has to be the funniest thing i seen in a long time. If he is a gaming icon then Fat1lity most be a gaming god.

llsektorll · Jul 31, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

in game voice communication would be a very very nice feature...

Duly Thankful · Jul 31, 2006, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Depends on your point of view. It may be a requirement for PvP, I wouldn't know, but I shudder to think of what PUG's in PvE would be like if it was available for everyone! It's bad enough looking at the garbage without having it screamed in your ears.

echo envitas · Jul 31, 2006, 10:14 PM // 22:14

I agree 100% with the OP.
And all you guys flaming him and telling him to fix the problem for himself - you don't get it. Yes, I can join a great guild, I can download teamspeak, I can turn off every single chat channel there is, but that won't fix the big problem. Some of us care about the game long-term and aren't content to ignore the problems.

The fact of the matter is that communications in GW are horrible as a baseline...
That means many many new players get turned off, before they ever have a chance to find a good guild or get teamspeak. And why should they have to turn of all their chat channels? That's ridiculous. Many of my old friends have left because of the general poor atmosphere...

And no - other games are not like this. At least WOW and EQ are not. I don't see the rudeness and dehumanization in those games on the same scale as this one. I mean, of course, those people exist everywhere - but not in the abundance that they exist here.

The atmosphere IS NOT condusive to making friends and chatting. Its more like people just yell at anyone and no one really even tries. There's no personal intimate conversations.
I can honestly say I love this game but the reason I keep thinking of quitting is the poor atmosphere which stems from how they have the game setup. This game has the best graphics, the best gameplay, the best developers, and the best company supporting it, but its all wasted because of the in-game atmosphere.

I really wish the developers would look into how the other MMORGS do it, check out WOW, EQ, etc...fix the actual interface.
Some ideas:
-We NEED an Auction House to cut down on WTS/WTB spam.
-A LFG tool would help too.
-The actual chat interface needs to be made bigger - with an resizeable box
-We need to be able to just hit enter and start typing in towns and outposts, i.e., ENTER "/1 Hi all!" where 1 = the General Chat Channel
-We need to be able to type "Tell Echo Envitas Help!" instead of clicking on the different sub-boxes
-We need more commands at our disposal, such as ways to look for people, i.e. a "WHO"
-Ingame mail would help too, but I doubt that would be feasible with ANET's business model
-Same for in-game reporting, it would help, but I don't know if that would be feasible with ANET's business model
-Basically we need more tools at our disposal.
-For more a more concrete idea just look into how some of the other games do it, they manage to make it communication okay

All in all, this is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing that ANET should work on.
I doubt they realize how many more players this would secure as GW players.
And this would make people nicer too, believe it or not. The game would feel less like an FPS and more like a real RPG/MMORG. People would have more accountability and I promise you, the niceness would catch on.

Anyway, if anyone reads this that cares about the longetivity of the game, and wants to make this a quality game, please please look into some of these ideas...
Especially since Nightfall is supposed to be RPG/PVE centered, this would be the #1 thing that needs improvement.
Don't forget that 80% of GW players are PVE players!

Thank you.

P.S. in-game voice-chat would not fix the problem.

Foe · Jul 31, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27

soo what...you work for Blizzard er something? How could even begin to suggest GW is the game of 12 yr olds while comparing it to wow. That one guys right u need to think about why u are still playing game...just sounds as though youve been unsuccesful in the game and are making up excuses. You wanna see cut throat community play Lineage 2 some time, ppl are ruthless yet its still #2 in subscriptions. If u have been playing
GW from the gate and ur friends list isnt full and your not in a guild full of like minded ppl perhaps your the problem my friend. As far as ppl talking shit in pvp turn your local chat off the only reason u would even have it on is so u can see what they might saying.. heh..i think u like it..What game that features competetion between players is there not smack being talked? Its your own fear that keeps u out of pvp..u think a rank 6 iway'r is a pvp genious lol?
Stay out of LA1 K1 theres always several districts in these places. Sure GW far from perfect but christ man it sounds like your feelings have been hurt

PS: u made me think of clip i saw of kid going off the deep end on his key board while playing WoW..looked 4 link couldnt find

Aejorii · Jul 31, 2006, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Are you complaining about pve or pvp? Seems like both, which are completely different things.

EternalTempest · Jul 31, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

OP is also asking for a "LFG" Flag with search feature.

FFXI has this option, go to LFG, then do search for all people LFG and it shows there level's and job, then easy way to direct whisper.

Aka make a LFM - Looking for mission and a list that shows up of ALL the other people LFM on your server (all Districts) in that zone so it's easy to meet up and form groups instead of shouting.

Do agree, trade house, auction house or some way to offload trade spam off the normal chat would be a huge improvement to clear up chat.

shadowfell · Jul 31, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I'll agree with the OP just on the basis that the people flaming him in this thread are exactly a part of the problem he is talking about. Grow up guys. Cut out the /whining boo hooo baby posts. By responding with the typical drivel and negative comments to the OP, it just makes you appear less intelligent and without really anything to add to this thread.. that is trolling. Read the rules.

There is a serious lack of communication in this game. For a game that is tending to focus on, and consider pvp as the end game reward for pve.. (I know, LOL), they SHOULD at least have in game voice communication.

GW is falling apart. If you want to green farm, fine.. if you have a build part of the formula, you will always have something do. Firestorm instead of meteor shower... nm... we will find someone else.

Oh noes, we need an order necro for IWay! Oh wait... you cannot play with us noob... you must be r6+

I cannot trade in GW anymore. I cannot find anything that I want to buy or am I able to sell anything because for every ONE of my lines, at least 10 other people have spammed the same line repeatedly.. (Despite the supposed tightened chat filter)

Try to do unwaking waters/boreas seabed/gyala hatchery at a odd hour of the day. Unfortunately, some people have different schedules. I have actually given up on goaling towards any 15k luxon armors, (Even though most are butt-ass ugly), because of the difficulty in finding people who know what they're doing in gyala, or in the first place, even at gyala.. So, so much for pve, in most cases.

Which leaves non-halls and the most fruitlessly rewarded pvp... ok... GvG.. there you can play, provided you have 4 people in your guild and at least 4 friends... but don't even get me started on smite...

jimmyhats · Jul 31, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by echo envitas

-The actual chat interface needs to be made bigger - with an resizeable box
THE CHATBOX IS RESIZABLE
-We need to be able to just hit enter and start typing in towns and outposts, i.e., ENTER "/1 Hi all!" where 1 = the General Chat Channel
YOU CAN... EVER WONDER WHAT THE SYMBOLS ON YOUR CHAT TABS MEAN?
-We need to be able to type "Tell Echo Envitas Help!" instead of clicking on the different sub-boxes
-We need more commands at our disposal, such as ways to look for people, i.e. a "WHO"
-Ingame mail would help too, but I doubt that would be feasible with ANET's business model
USELESS IN AN INSTANCED WORLD, YOU CAN JUST GO MEET UP ANYWHERE
-Same for in-game reporting, it would help, but I don't know if that would be feasible with ANET's business model
USED TO EXIST, GOT ABUSED TO THE POINT WHERE IT HAD TO BE REMOVED
-Basically we need more tools at our disposal.
-For more a more concrete idea just look into how some of the other games do it, they manage to make it communication okay

All in all, this is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing that ANET should work on.
I doubt they realize how many more players this would secure as GW players.
And this would make people nicer too, believe it or not. The game would feel less like an FPS and more like a real RPG/MMORG.
ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS A CORPG
People would have more accountability and I promise you, the niceness would catch on.

Anyway, if anyone reads this that cares about the longetivity of the game, and wants to make this a quality game, please please look into some of these ideas...
Especially since Nightfall is supposed to be RPG/PVE centered, this would be the #1 thing that needs improvement.
Don't forget that 80% of GW players are PVE players!
CAN YOU CITE A REFERANCE FOR THIS NUMBER?

text in bold = me

Punches · Aug 01, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Guild Wars is the first online game I've really gotten into and since it's release I have become an incredibly skilled player using henchies and my guild, and the rare skilled group that comes along from time to time.

I'm slowly veering more and more towards only playing with henchies and guildies.

I don't know if it's the sub-par com system or if the majority of guild wars players really are 12 year old brats, but I always just assumed all online games were like this.

It's too bad too, I enjoy meeting new people and stuff, but the flaming and the spamming makes it damn near impossible to interact with other players in towns and outposts without wanting to eviscerate myself.

Punches · Aug 01, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

All you need to know is that Guild Wars has been working on in-game voice communication for quite awhile, and it will eventually be intorduced to the game. Until the time GW is able to do this, use TS or Vent like everyone else because both are likely to be better quality/functionality than anything an on-line game will provide.

I keep hearing this, and TS/VENT are great if you are already in a group. However for any sort of socializing, group forming, trading, etc... it does absolutely nothing to help. Perhaps you people are misunderstanding the complaint.

Opeth11 · Aug 01, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

in game voice communication would be a very very nice feature...

As some people have already mentioned, just pick up Ventrillo or Teamspeak off of the internet.

Most (if not all) the top PvP teams and guilds use a form of audio communication because it just makes everything a lot easier. Now, that method is for people who have microphones and speakers. Not that hard to get, is it? All that's left is some organization within a group of friends or guildmates and you're fine with the communication.

So text is bothering you? Then ignore it. But don't forget that a lot of people will refuse to use a form of audio chat because of various reasons. You will encounter text almost all the time when you're not already organized into a group who has already planned ahead not to do so.

So World of Warcraft had Leeroy Jenkins? Well, that's just an example of a team who had a misunderstanding with a player with the use of some audio. Because you saw a video of people chatting, does it mean that Guild Wars doesn't have a way of doing the same? No, you just havn't been exposed to it. A person on Guild Wars could do the same when the team is planning to go kill Urgoz or something. The team gets ready to trap, and one guy runs in and screws everything up, yelling "OppEEEEEEEETHHHHHHHHHHHH" for all I care. Same effect, but not as fresh because it has already been done.

Text will always be the staple of online gaming because of it's simplicity and efficiency of how to set it up. You need a keyboard, and that's about it. Most computers come with a keyboard rather than a microphone. To most people, a microphone is just extra money for something that's not even needed. Don't want to type? Then you'll have to find the right people, simple as that.

KamikazeChicken · Aug 01, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Punches

However for any sort of socializing, group forming, trading, etc... it does absolutely nothing to help. Perhaps you people are misunderstanding the complaint.

People in HA tend to be able to use Vent/TS and still form groups/exchange builds/organize themselves just fine (I used to see this happen in ToA as well, but not so much anymore). Am I to assume this means most PvE individuals are not up to such a task? I hardly think that could be the problem. >.> You're just less likely to find people in PvE who have TS or Vent to use.

No one is misunderstanding the complaint. There's just nothing anyone can do about it. GW is working on it, and that's all we know at the moment. Look how long it took for increased storage. There still isn't guild storage, reconnects, profession changers in guild halls, etc. and they're all things they're known to be working on. It just takes time to create/test/add, so people need to learn to use the resources at their own disposal, not bitch about having to work a little harder for the time being.

Age · Aug 01, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

I will tell you one thing my Admin knows very well as I am super moderator that games puplishers and developers don't play thier games.That is part of the problems with many games as to bugs and what gamers find.I would have to say that most of them are more concerned with making money than thinking about who plays thier games yes GW is suppose to be a PvP game but it didn't turn out that way.PvPer wanted observer mode and how long have PvEers asked for auction houses and are still waiting.
I would like to see better guild support as well when those who have logged into thier account for 2 or 3 months get an e-mail reminder.We all benefit if they fixed what is need to be fixed instead of working on future chapters and leave that for later.

LoKi Foxfire · Aug 01, 2006, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer

Download TeamSpeak and Ventrillo. Doesnt take more than 10 minutes. Do something yourself to make a great game, dont just blame Anet.

I think his point was that he would like having other VoIP communication like BF2 or CS.

As for grouping tools, the answer I've gotten from Gaile is that I quote "Shouldn't be so lazy." Yea, thanks for that answer... I'm sure I'm supposed to somehow magically see through lines and lines of spam of people LFG to find need, then copy-paste their name after clicking on theirs to whisper, copy-paste their name into the invite bar and hope I get my invite to them before someone else. :]

Anyways, I've seen reviews bumming Factions for A-Net STILL not implementing any sort of grouping tools, trading areas, auction houses, reconnects, and the other million things people have been whining for (which should have been included from the start; unless you're actively trying to rip people off)

I can hope for it to get better but I highly doubt it. Vanguard is coming out soon and I'm finally going to get into the Beta so we'll see how that goes. Hopefully that game will have people who actually give a shit about things other than nerfing skills to improve the overall game. :]